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by Brian Farrell, 13News

13NEWS / WVEC.com

Posted on February 25, 2010 at 12:39 AM

Updated Thursday, Feb 25 at 1:37 PM

NORFOLK -- Members of Westboro Baptist Church are set to arrive in Hampton Roads Monday to add to the number of "peaceful demonstrations" they boast on their website they've staged. The group, led by Pastor Fred Phelps, has been picketing since 1991, speaking against many groups, including the gay, military, and Jewish communities.

The three-day-long itinerary in our area includes stops in Norfolk, Virginia Beach, and Portsmouth. The first location on WBC's schedule is outside Granby High School.

"We've had groups in the past that have been in front of our schools," says Michael Spencer with Norfolk Public Schools, "but not of this caliber."

NPS is in the process of letting parents know the group's intentions at Granby, Maury, and Norview High Schools. It also is working closely with the City of Norfolk.

"We expect to have city officials there, whether police or others, to make sure that the agreement they have with the group is adhered to," Spencer tells 13News. "The last thing we want to do is give 'em a lot of play. We'd like 'em to just pass through the area like they've never been there."

Kathy O'Hara with Virginia Beach City Public Schools says her division is following steps similar to Norfolk Public Schools. Westboro Baptist lists Landstown High School in the Beach as one of the demonstrators' places to picket. Churchland High School in Portsmouth rounds out the list of public schools on the schedule.

Demonstrations also are to take place at Naval Station Norfolk and outside a military symposium being held at the Virginia Beach Convention Center. In addition, the group lists stops at Jewish congregations, schools, and facilities.

"I wish they would spend as much time helping people in need as they do preaching hatred," says Rabbi Rosalin Mandelberg of Ohef Sholom Temple. "They pretty much hate everyone."

Mandelberg says there will be a police presence outside her synagogue, but the congregation will choose not to engage picketers if they show up.

"The messages that they give out are so ridiculous, and such distortions, that it's hard for me to imagine that anybody who thinks rationally could give them any credence," Mandelberg states. "I think they'll have their little visit and come and go, and we'll just get back to life as normal."

Spencer encourages school communities to take the same approach.

"The last thing we want to do is to have any of our children engage with them in a negative way and simply give them what they want which is attention," Spencer says.

Picket Schedule for Hampton Roads from Westboro Baptist Church's Website 

Monday, March 1, 2010

Granby High School, Norfolk

Maury High School, Norfolk

BINA High School, Norfolk 

Ohef Sholom Temple, Norfolk

Norfolk Naval Station

Tuesday, March 2, 2010

Landstown High School, Virginia Beach

Simon Family Jewish Community Center, Virginia Beach

Virginia Beach Convention Center, Virginia Beach

Wednesday, March 3, 2010

Churchland High School, Portsmouth

Torah Day School, Portsmouth

Virginia Beach Convention Center, Virginia Beach

Norview High School, Norfolk

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jhigg008 said on February 27, 2010 at 12:15 PM

This is a shame. However, in addition to thinking about the unnecessary stress of the protesting party we need to also protect the psychological health of our children. Because these people will be preaching hate at our schools, it is important to have counseling staff briefed and ready to support students who are homosexual, have a military family, or are Jewish (or any combination of these). Instead of focusing on this group's arrival, more should be said about ways to combat feelings of alienation or depression that may result from their presence on school campuses. Counseling staff at Hampton Roads schools are extremely knowledgable; however, in order for these services to be effective it is important to make sure that students are aware of the existence of counseling services at schools. Additionally, counselors should brush up on recent literature that promotes awareness of issues that affect these specific populations if they have not already done so.

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americansunrise said on February 26, 2010 at 10:02 AM

Look these people aren't worth the time or energy - F 'em! They're all going to hell anyway - hopefully they'll have a horrible accident on the way here and die - END OF PROBLEM! Look at the time and energy I just wasted typing this on these pieces of s***!

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surfvbpier said on February 26, 2010 at 8:12 AM

I say we exercise our 1st Amendment rights too and protest these idiots. I can think of a few good signs to make over the weekend. I don't see Booker T. Washington H.S. on the list in Norfolk...shame.

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doris0728 said on February 26, 2010 at 2:07 AM

Ok, I understand we can't stop these morons from spreading their venom in front of the base or at the convention center, but the schools?????? Isn't there some kind of protection in place for our children? I am appalled that we have to stand by and allow our children to be subjected to this. It's bad enough that they see it on TV or the internet, but in front of their schools????

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beachmom04 said on February 25, 2010 at 7:27 PM

in my oppinion if you want to preach anti american propaganda and disrespect the men and women whom protect your rights and freedoms then you do not deserve to have those rights and freedoms. they are using freedom of speech to say god hates the millitary. the millitary fights to protect that freedom of speech so why should these people still have that freedom. theyre idiots and i cant believe the city of norfolk, va. beach and portsmouth is going to allow them to protest in front of the schools and the children who attend these schools. its ridiculous.

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grumpychief said on February 25, 2010 at 6:07 PM

Just another hate group using religion and churches as their front. These people are nothing more than hate mongers just like the KKK and Neo-Nazi's.

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missbhaven25 said on February 25, 2010 at 1:55 PM

I've had a run in with these freaks once before when they came to the rainbow state to preach their hate. These people are vile, putrid, disgusting excuses for human beings, let alone Christians. Anyone up for a peaceful counter protest??? hahahaha

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vaboater said on February 25, 2010 at 1:08 PM

(785) 233-4162 – Phelps Family Law Office.

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candle said on February 25, 2010 at 11:54 AM

I am a conservative Christian and I understand that these people have the right to freedom of speech. However, I don't understand how they think this does any good to anyone. I also don't understand how they think this glorifies God or spreads the gospel of love, mercy or grace that Jesus wants us to in any way, shape or form. There are other ways to voice your political opinion and that's what I feel this is about. Also, how in the world can they justify being against Jewish people? Jesus was Jewish. I think these people are toxic and shouldn't be allowed to picket so close to schools. I think they need to go back and study their Bible for real and see what God hates: There are six things the LORD hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies, and a man who stirs up dissention among brothers.Proverbs6 ,

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hurleygirl said on February 25, 2010 at 11:04 AM

I cant even believe this still goes on in 2010, why do they care about what everybody else is doing mind your own business and stay away from the schools, it is not your right to preach to other peoples kids.

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vaboater said on February 25, 2010 at 10:35 AM

iJonathan and Paulette Phelps 840 S.W. Watson Topeka, Kansas 66606 Jonathan’s work: 785-233-4162 Elizabeth Phelps 2001 S.W. 2nd Street Topeka, Kansas 66606 home: 785-234-9694 work: 785-233-0822 Abigail Phelps 3636 S.W. Churchill Topeka, Kansas 66604 785-273-7262 work: 785-296-7709 Charles W. and Mary Hockenbarger 711 N.W. Page Topeka, Kansas 66617 home: 785- 246-1567 Rachel Phelps Hockenbarger and Charles F. Hockenbarger 1284 S.W. Hillsdale Topeka, Kansas 66604 home: 785-271-1619 Tim and LeAnn Phelps 3743 S.W. 12th Street Topeka, Kansas 66604 home: 785-273-4780 Tim’s work: 785-291-5100 Leann’s work: phone: 785-233-4162 Theresa Davis 3632 S.W. 12th Street Topeka, Kansas 66604 work: 785-291-700

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davidedmondson said on February 25, 2010 at 10:22 AM

Four points to make: 1) God does not hate anyone, in fact he love us so much he sent his son Jesus to die for our forgiveness! 2) God does hate sin, add both heterosexuals and homosexuals sin! 3) NO one on this earth can sit on God's Throne, he and he alone will judge ALL mankind. 4) Remember not everyone calming to be a Christian is one! If they were they would not sit in judgement of those outside the church!!!

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jaseman27 said on February 25, 2010 at 10:21 AM

I am proud to be an American and to have the freedoms we do. It could not be done without the men and women who serve our Country every single second of every single day. These people downplay and just downright disrespect our Military. I say dispatch a F/A-18 hornet from Oceana to take care of the threat these people pose to our nation. Or at least have several fly overs to make them a little hard of hearing. May God continue to bless the military and have mercy on the souls of these horrible people. It is a shame there is not rules about protesting in front of our children in thier schools. Most of these kids have family in the military it saddens me that these people will be mocking them as well.

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vaboater said on February 25, 2010 at 10:21 AM

Fred W. and Margie M. Phelps, Sr. Westboro Baptist Church 3701 S.W. 12th Street Topeka, Kansas 66604 phone: 785-273-0325 and 785-273-0338 fax: 785-273-9228 Karl and Deborah Kay Hockenbarger James Hockenbarger/Jennifer Hockenbarger 1929 S.W. Lane Topeka, Kansas 66604 home: (913) 233-1848 K-K-Karl’s work: 785-296-3959 Fred W. Phelps. Jr. and Betty Phelps 3600 S. W. Holly Lane Topeka, Kansas 66604 home: 785-272-4135 Jr.’s work: 785-296-3195 Margie J. Phelps 3734 S.W. 12th Topeka, Kansas 66604 home: 785-273-7380 work: 785-296-3317 Ben Phelps 3632 S.W. Churchill Topeka, Kansas 66604 home: 785-233-4162 Rebekah Phelps-Davis and Chris Davis-Phelps 1216 S.W. Cambridge Topeka, Kansas 66604 home: 785-272-7741 Shirley Phelps-Roper and Brent Roper-Phelps Sam Phelps-Roper 3640 S.W. Churchilll Topeka, Kansas 66604 home: 785-273-1445/273-0277/272-1619 Shirley’s work: 785-233-4162 Brent’s work (Foot Locker) 785-273-0068 Found these too. ENJOY!

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vaboater said on February 25, 2010 at 10:14 AM

Westboro Baptist Church 3701 SW 12th St Topeka, KS 66604 (785) 273-0325 Enjoy! I know I will.

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justemerald said on February 25, 2010 at 9:17 AM

well well well ..... it looks like ignorance is still festering in our society. and guess what, the media is right there ready to give these uneducated people the air-time the want. I propose to 13 News and all the other media outlets in our area to ignore them. Dont report on them. Dont publish anything related to them. You see, its stories like this that give these people just enough coverage to fuel their engine of hate. The best way to take power from someone is to just ignore it. Yes, they will still protest, yes they will still preach hatred, but if noones there to watch or pay attention, then their messages are just ambient noise that gets drowned out in the brilliant lives of those who want happiness and peace. Just my thoughts, anyone else feel the same way?

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couger73 said on February 25, 2010 at 9:15 AM

Oh hell no, these freaks need to go home and leave our military alone. These are the same idiots that protest at our fallen soldiers funerals! Stand up hampton roads and show these freaks that they are not wanted in hampton roads or anywhere else in america. If these freaks protest at norfolk naval base, they better hope that securety is tight or god help em, they may just get their asses kicked right back to kansas. I will be at landstown high school to protest their even being in va let alone in front of a high school. GO AWAY YOU FREAKS AND LET OUR MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE GIVEN ALL FOR THIS GREAT COUNTRY REST IN PEACE.

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jbarham095782865 said on February 25, 2010 at 7:08 AM

I am grateful ot live in a country where we have freedom of speech, however, this is an example of the price we pay for that freedom. It's a shame our kids have to be exposed to these hate-mongers. I suppose we can use it as a teachable moment where we can talk to our kids about how groups like this are liars and should be completely ignored. I pray their plans will be disrupted and that God will protect our precious kids from thier lies and hatred.

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hbrogan57 said on February 25, 2010 at 4:39 AM

I have seen these people before protesting. If some of them had a REAL J.O.B. they might not be out there. Oh....I forgot....this is done with DONATIONS. Maybe someone ((IS THE I.R.S. LISTENING?)) should look into their "tax free" status.

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rowan_ravensbane said on February 25, 2010 at 3:20 AM

These people are ridiculous, and I am wondering when someone will resort to violence against them...This man's "family" is distorted and disrespectful to the military, in their righteous cause to bring their version of christianity to the world. there is no room for jews, gays, or anyone other then his follower's....who are all relatives... I am sure the family tree looks more like a telephone pole, since there isn't any branches....and I am sure he is hiding his own perversions thru his excremental visions...(yes i meant to say that)... These people just need to go away, they are sick and brainwashed, Hey Phelps..why don't you try going for the Jonestown ending to your twisted lives.. As a veteran and a gay one at that.....I have done more for my country then your pathetic little family will ever do. The most you will ever give back to this world is your worth as fertilizer when your mortal coils are laid to rest in Mother Earth.

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